Tuesday, May 5, 2009

Civil War over Slave Gay Marriage

Because tearing the country apart over giving legal rights to other people is... is... wait. That's exactly what happened during the Civil War in the 19th century. Our ancestors tore this country apart over slavery, with half the country wishing to deny blacks the right to be free, to be considered human, instead of 3/5ths of a person.

Fast forward 144 years and we have black people in DC up in arms, clamoring to deny others of their legal rights. They should be ashamed of themselves. This is a nation of laws, not a nation of religion. You don't like it, don't marry someone of the same sex. This isn't about what your sky god thinks or what you think he thinks. This is about same sex couples having legal rights provided by our secular government. If you don't like it, move to Saudi Arabia. Let me know how that whole theocracy thing works out for you, k?

Barry Warns of "Civil War" Over Gay Marriage

D.C. Council member Marion Barry (D-Ward 8), the only council member to vote against the bill today to legalize same-sex marriages performed elsewhere, predicted today there could be a "civil war" in the District if the Council decides to take up a broader gay marriage bill later this year.

"All hell is going to break lose," Barry said while speaking to reporters. "We may have a civil war. The black community is just adamant against this."

Barry made his remarks a few hours after a group of same-sex marriage opponents, led by black ministers, caused uproar in the Wilson Building after the Council voted 12 to 1 to recognize same-sex marriages performed elsewhere. They caused such a ruckus that security guards and police had to clear the hallway. The protesters shouted that council members who voted for the bill will face retribution at the polls.

Although he has been a longtime supporter of gay rights, Barry said he voted against the bill to satisfy his constituents in Southeast Washington.

"What you've got to understand is 98 percent of my constituents are black and we don't have but a handful of openly gay residents," Barry said. "Secondly, at least 70 percent of those who express themselves to me about this are opposed to anything dealing with this issue. The ministers think it is a sin, and I have to be sensitive to that."

But Barry said he disagrees with the ministers' antics today at the Wilson Building, saying the chaos "sets the movement back."

Oh, and by the way, the great irony of this, is that the Bible supports slavery too. Maybe those black people in DC should go back to being slaves since the Bible says it's okay. {/snark}

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." Ephesians 6:5

"All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered." 1 Timothy 6:1

BTW, I never thought I would quote the Catholic Encyclopedia in any seriousness, but you know, there is a time and a place for everything.

..."according to Greek law and usage, the slave was in a complete subjection to the will of his master, possessing no rights, even that of marriage."

So, there you have it. It is true. Humanity learns nothing from history.


  1. Dude, I am so impressed with you Bible skills. :)

    I never would have thunk it...

    They want freedom, freedom, freedom, but only if you do "this" thing on "this" day in "this" church with "these" words with "these" kinds of people...

    And may I just say that Whores of the Devil just flashed me in your library. Gotta get me that. I said just tonight; the GOP *literally* made a deal with the devil.

  2. I'll warn you that Whores of the Devil is a good book, but the guy who wrote it, I don't think English is his native language. He's Austrian, and lives in France. Some of the ways he phrases stuff is a bit awkward, but if you ignore it, overall the book is good. I have more books that what's in that library widget, but so many of them are in storage, for a long time now, that I don't remember what I have LOL

    And my heathen self has read about 90% of the Bible. I had classes in it at a University, on the history, archaeology, and textual criticism of it. One of these days I'm going to read the entire thing from start to finish. If you sit down and read it with no preconceived notions about what it is or is not, you'll be shocked that people regard that book as the word of anything, much less of god.

  3. Is Marion Barry smoking crack again?

    By the way, if you have a daughter you're thinking of selling into slavery, you can find useful instructions for doing so in a Godly manner in Exodus 21 7-11.

  4. It's great that you are pointing out the Bible's pro slavery stance. There still are people who think that book is moral, as crazy as that sounds to rational people.

  5. @Yoga... "Bitch set him up" LOLz

    @libhom... If anyone thinks that the Bible is "moral" they've not read it.

  6. It is really surprising to me how soon people can forget just what "freedom" means.

    As far as I'm concerned, those "preachers" had no right to say anything about this vote. Politics is no place for their religious beliefs, keep that crap in the pulpit. If I want to hear it, which I don't, I'll come to your church.

    The "bible" not only condones slavery but hatred and racism, too. These christianists talk about how bad Islamic law is, but yet they ignore the fact that their "bible" teaches it's followers to slaughter non-believers, also.

  7. @ Grandpa... I have to point out that a good portion of the Koran is a retelling of the Bible. Same characters, their names are spelled differently. But everyone here ignores that.

  8. I need some good reading material for over the summer and would greatly appreciate any recommendations. I have been reading nothing but dry, dry, dry, academic journal articles for the last two years (okay, so I managed to squeeze in the Twilight series as a secret guilty pleasure that I know totally loses me some street cred :) From the looks of your library it seems like you have some interesting stuff.

  9. We have some sorority sister who try to infuse their backwards Bapist notions into the Public Schools in Buffalo. One school run by a sister even segregates boys and girls and seemingly meets no resistance on doing so because the headaches of taking on the sisterhood and the Baptisthood are too numerous for mere mortals to take on. Being backwards is nothing to be proud of nor does it seem to have any racial profile as we've seen with blondielocks the Miss Cali bimbo who shares these ideas. Great work here

  10. Is Marion Barry smoking crack again?You stole my line.

  11. @skywriter, all the books on the list here, I have read, and they're all good. I don't think any of them are very dry. I hate dry history, gotta have action, adventure, intrigue, etc :D

    @Rasta, thanks :)